Grey Bard ([info]grey_bard) wrote,
@ 2008-04-17 01:10:00
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Current mood: indescribable

Overheard in My Genepool
Normally, I don't talk about my family. I don't, not because there's anything wrong with them, but instead because they're happy and sane. Normally. Every once in a while, though, there's a banner day for familial WTF.

My parents and I went to dinner with my grandmother tonight, and she was feeling down on the modern world. Only... in that uniquely vaguely hallucinogenic way of old people who don't really *understand* some details of the modern world.

"I don't know how it could really get worse. With violence on tv and with the computers...."

Apparently because her house cleaner met a guy over the internet during the break up of her marriage, and because she's heard of people meeting people over the internet, she seems to visualize it as some kind of dingy single's bar of sin. Possibly with a few well lit corners for selling books, renting videos and discussing quilts.

Meanwhile, it is my uncle's turn, at long last, to do something eccentric, and for my aunt to be the bemused sensible one.

The man has decided, apropos of nothing, that what his life really needs is chickens. No, really*.

Why? We do not know.

First any of us heard of it is after he sent away for the exact kind of baby chickens (and one rooster) that he wanted. From California.

Mail-order chickens.

Ladies and gentlemen, my family. (facepalm)


*No, he isn't a farmer, he frames pictures.




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[info]kalquessa
2008-04-17 04:11 pm UTC (link)
she seems to visualize it as some kind of dingy single's bar of sin. Possibly with a few well lit corners for selling books, renting videos and discussing quilts.

Not an entirely inaccurate picture...*grin*

I love the mail-order chickens. They get my Data "WTF" icon.

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[info]othercat
2008-04-18 03:19 am UTC (link)
((Apparently because her house cleaner met a guy over the internet during the break up of her marriage, and because she's heard of people meeting people over the internet, she seems to visualize it as some kind of dingy single's bar of sin. Possibly with a few well lit corners for selling books, renting videos and discussing quilts.))

Wait, what...you mean it ISN'T?

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[info]grey_bard
2008-04-18 07:05 am UTC (link)
Heh. If it worked the way she thought it did, I would be having three tawdry affairs right now, given how much time I spend online!

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[info]omlteaufromage
2008-05-03 03:43 pm UTC (link)
Well, in his defense, it's the easiest way to get chicks.

*crickets chirping*

Um. Right. Moving on.

Now, the real point of my comment: I like spy stuff. You like spy stuff. You know more about spy stuff than I do. Care to share some recommendations? I would be most grateful!

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[info]grey_bard
2008-05-04 05:03 am UTC (link)
Awesome! What kind of spy stuff do you want recs on? Fic about a certain series? Fic about a certain era? Pro-fic? Tv series and movies? Writings and/or documentaries about the real thing?

I'm more than happy to help!

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[info]omlteaufromage
2008-05-04 06:13 am UTC (link)
I'd like to be a greedy two-year-old and demand the world of you, but in the interest of you having a life, I will pare my list down to TV series, movies, and fics about a certain era, if only to see if there's any Kim Philby/John le Carré fanfiction. Should anyone be so twisted.

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Serious spy recs (prewritten)
[info]grey_bard
2008-05-04 07:02 am UTC (link)
Okay, these first two reply comments are cut and paste from a list I already made up.

Best spy show ever?

The Sandbaggers - A Brit show from the late 70's, early 80's. The spy show so accurate, that a script ended up classified, never to be filmed! There's machiavellian intrigue by the boatload, smart, sharp, believable plots, and a delightfully ruthless hero. Be warned. Not a lot of on screen daring do, more scheming and planning. Also, hilariously bad 70's Brit sets mixed with the best acting and scripts ever!

Most fascinating non-fiction spy memoir ever?

Man Without A Face by Markus Wolf - Nothing's more interesting or terrifying than the real thing. The memoirs of Markus Wolf, the decidedly unrepentant East German spy chief. Not a nice fellow, but very good at his craft. A really chilling book by one of the bad guys.

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Less serious spy recs (prewritten)
[info]grey_bard
2008-05-04 07:17 am UTC (link)
The Hunt for Red October by Tom Clancy - Sure, it was a Sean Connery movie, but the book doesn't star a Baldwin. Lots of nitty gritty analyst work, and plenty of moral dilemmas. A classic page-turner.

Miles, Mystery & Mayhem by Lois McMaster Bujold - Ah, Miles Vorkosigan. One of the cleverest spies in sci fi. Deliciously intriguing and full of humor, with more space opera spy action than you can shake a stick at.

Our Man Flint (Movie Starring James Coburn) - Okay. Imagine a suave cross between James Bond and Spock. Now make him utterly unpatriotic and self centered. Funny, funny stuff, and much better than Austin Powers.

Man From U.N.C.L.E.- Napoleon Solo and Illya Kuraykin are serious spies. It isn't their fault that they have such ridiculous enemies! Here they are, at their best. Would it *kill* the studio to put this out on dvd? Some episodes available free and legal here: http://www.modernfeed.com/show/MAN_FROM_UNCLE_THE/

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Re: Less serious spy recs (prewritten)
[info]grey_bard
2008-05-04 07:26 am UTC (link)
To clarify, Man from U.N.C.L.E. is out on dvd, but only used or from Columbia House. Big hassle, stupid studio.

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Re: Less serious spy recs (prewritten)
[info]omlteaufromage
2008-05-04 02:30 pm UTC (link)
Ah, but The Hunt for Red October also has a kick-ass OST.

Ooh, more free stuff! When I finally get some headphones, I'm planting my ass in front of my computer and watching them.

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Off the cuff serious rec
[info]grey_bard
2008-05-04 07:22 am UTC (link)
The Labyrinth: Memoirs Of Walter Schellenberg, Hitler's Chief Of Counterintelligence by Walter Schellenberg

I read this a few years ago in college and it wasn't a book you forget. Absolutely clinical, and filled with huge amounts of detail on how spywork was done at the time, and what the inside of the Nazi war machine was like. Yes, Nazis and evil, but less blatant crazy and atrocities, more slowly chilling at how little it bothered this guy.

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[info]grey_bard
2008-05-04 07:25 am UTC (link)
Okay, that's a start. Tell me what was close to what you were looking for, so I can rec from there.

Also, Kim Philby fic? Got it for you right here: http://www.yuletidetreasure.org/archive/fandom_cambridge_spies.html

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[info]omlteaufromage
2008-05-04 02:22 pm UTC (link)
Dear Lord. Thank you! I've heard lots of great things about Bujold. Clearly, I need to drink the Kool-Aid now.

...I knew it. The world really IS that twisted.

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[info]grey_bard
2008-05-04 08:57 pm UTC (link)
Not only that, but it was based on a miniseries about Philby and co. called Cambridge Spies. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346223/

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